truelaw@juno.com wrote:
>
> When Lincoln brushed all this law and tradition aside, he
replaced it with the only law that was available as a
codified
> whole, i.e., with the codified laws of Rome, by Justinian.
>
> There are some who will ask why Lincoln did not import the
civil law of Rome. The answer is, the idea of Roman civil law
> is bogus because Rome was always under the god Mars, i.e.,
Martial law and was always a military state in which the
> Roman Legions were used to expand and maintain control of
Rome's insatiable commercial appetite.
>
This is not exactly true if you look at the big picture of Roman
History. Rome was originally a Republic which became more federal and
empirical after its own civil war. It was at this time the Roman
Senate
elected its first emperor, Augustus, who of course was actually
Octavius. Originally Rome was under Janis as far as religious
gods are
concerned.
There are many things we should understand about Rome in order to
understand the US. In 29 B.C. Gaius Octavianus marched into Rome
as the
"savior of the Republic" and was given the
title of Augustus by the Senate.
He was then legally granted, under constitutional forms and limitations, the position Emperator, commander in chief of all military and naval forces, for a period of ten years. He could set foreign policy and establish treaties [Emperator, emperatoris m.commander in chief Collins L.E. Dict. '62].
August held 2 other offices to which he was elected.
Principas civitas, That is to say 'The first citizen' or chief
executive
officer of Rome a municipality.
And the last office he requested to be created by the senate was that of god.
Actually he was not just the god of the Roman Empire but the 'Apo
Theos', The originator of gods..
His duties as orginator of gods was to appoint all the lesser gods throughout the empire. These gods were called theos in the Greek but although the Bible NT translates the word theos into the word God it actually means judge. What he did was appoint judges like Pontius Pilate. This could be seen as a quirk of language except the word elohim in the Hebrew which is the word translated into gods or God in the Old Testament was also the common word used to address judges in the Jewish courts at the time of Christ. Go look at your Strong's if you do not believe me.
This simple fact should open a whole new world as to the meaning of the Bible that has been kept from the ignorant masses for evil purposes.
What Jesus was claiming was that he was the rightful God of Judea and
Rome agreed. Many of the people agreed and said so by shouting Highest
[Hosana] Son of David. Those in positions of power are the ones
who disagree.
You will find this still true when you are dragged into today's courts
of Rome.
> We find today, a vast number of parallels between the old
Roman codes and modern codes, of which, only a few are
> mentioned below.
>
> First, there is novation, from the Latin, novatio. This
concept did not exist in American law before Lincoln's War
Against
> the States.
>
> Novation is the extinguishment of a prior debt by a new debt
obligation.
>
> Today, this is done by a birth certificate when a baby's foot
is placed thereon_before it touches the land. The certificate
> is then recorded at a County Recorder, sent to the Secretary
of State in the State where the baby is born, exported to the
> Department of Commerce, and Bureau of Census and the process
of converting a man's life, labor, and property to an
> asset of the United States government is in place.
>
> Novation is not complete until the child as adult voluntarily
assents to being a debtor, by submitting an application for a
> benefit, privilege, immunity, or opportunity from any branch
of a martial law agency. It does not matter whether it's The
> Department of Motor Vehicles or, The Social Security
Administration, the effect is the same. Novation converts a
baby's
> life, liberty, labor, and property, to an asset of the United
States, a Federal corporation, and converts a flesh and blood
> man or woman, created under substantive Law by God, to a
persona, i.e., a fiction.
This is a very good picture of what is happening but it is not completely true at this moment in time but it is as close as I have heard any one else state.. Each of these applications takes us closer to
total subjugation and by October of next year you will not be
able to
get any of these benefits with out that initial 'born again'
certificate.
> One is now living collateral for the
I looked up constitutionalist in the legal dictionary and it was not in there. There was the word constitutor. It has an interesting definition.
"One who, by a simple agreement, becomes responsible for the payment of another's debt." Black's Law Dictionary Ed. 3rd.
I am not a constitutor, either.
Are you a constitutor? Have you signed some simple agreement making you responsible for the debt of another?
Gregory at the ekklesia
Gregory at the ekklesia
> I hope that makes enough sense for you to be able to
respond. Thanks,
> debts of the United States corporation, who has entered into
commerce for some benefit, privilege, etc., from an imperial
> power, regulated by military law that benefits bondholders of
the debt of the corporation.
>
> Third, the persona, as a fiction, cannot think, speak, see,
hear, or write, and thus an advocatus, an attorney, is called
in
> to speak for the persona.
>
If you voluntarily give your power of attorney to someone else
you are saying that you are incompetent and are turning yourself over to
the club of the court.
> Fourth, Roman law is the basis of all International and Municipal law and forms the core of the United Nations law, and
> all treaties made by the United States with foreign powers.
Yes, because that is the job of the emperor of the United States.
>
> Fifth, the lex mercatoria, the law of merchants and commerce is based on Roman law where the god of merchants and
> commerce, Mercury, presided, who is, the god of traders and thieves.
>
> Sixth, all modern federal and state law appears in the form of codes patterned after the Code of Justinian, often following
> it, at places, exactly.
>
> Thus, Roman law served all the needs of those who opposed Constitutional law. It installed the force and power of the
> military; it already existed as a complete body of law; it was commercial; and, it was clearly the only real substitute for the
> Law of God and the common law.
I am not a constitutionalist.
The Constitution is not the answer for Christians. The constitution was a step in the wrong direction. It was never legally ratified and it created a corporate foothold for the beast in America.
The salvation of freedom in America is the "Church. In its most general sense, the religious society founded and established by Jesus Christ, to receive, preserve, and propagate his doctrines and ordinances."
"A body or community of Christians, united under one form of government by the profession of one faith, and the observance of the same rituals and ceremonies." Black's Law Dictionary 3rd ed. Page 325. also 4th, 5th 6th Ed.
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> Big Al wrote:
> ....
> 1) Do unregistered churches have to pay sales tax when they purchase
> items
> for the respective church?
> >
> No, but they do.
Actually none of us would have to pay sales tax if we would get out of banking and business and trade with Christians [ if you can find any].
>
> On this point I beg to differ because of the following items.1. Don't pay
> the sales tax and no food. You have 40 days in which to die.
We live in the high deserts of Oregon and grow most of what we eat.
> 2. Don't pay sales tax on gas and you don't travel to get
food.
Again, our food is here and we trade for some of the other things we
feel we need.
> 3. Don't pay sales tax on water supplied and you die in 5 days.
We have wells with artesian flows that bring the water out to us. And springs and a windmill for one well.
> 4. Don't pay sales tax on items of necessity such as
seeds for garden
> shovels, rakes and so forth and you don't have a
garden.
We grow much of our own seeds and have dug up and started trees
ourselves.
> 5. Don't pay sales tax on all parts for car , tractors,
and equipment and
> what do you have? Nothing.
Horses and one ox.
> Just getting out of banking, business and trade
> does not cure the problem. Get out of all that you say and you still will
> pay sales taxes or the alternative is to die. What about medicine, you pay
> sales tax on that.
We provide most of our own care. Everything from birthing babies to setting bones. No brain surgery.
> What about electricity,
Hydroelectric, wind, solar or do with out.
>heating oil for home or
> propane? You pay sales taxes on those.
Firewood. I just got three loads from a neighbor of junk wood he wanted hauled away. And I have sheep for wool socks etc. if wood gets scares.
> Telephone you pay sales tax.
You got me for now on that one.
>The computer you operate you paid sales tax.
Actually I got several computers in trade with other people.
> So it is not as simple as you
> say. Bought a book lately without paying a sales tax?
Actually I haven't. Not to many things written recently that I
would
want to read. But you have a point.
> How about a six pack
> of beer, soda, ciggarets,
Nope, nope, and definitely nope. Unless you want more of that
taxed
medicine I would stay away from most of that..
> clothes, material to make clothes
Do they have sales tax at second hand stores?
> and the list
> goes on, and on, and on like the pink bunny just keeps going,
going, going.
> Big Al
Big Al has a good point though. But I have made leather from
rabbits,
goats, sheep and cows. We have woven cloth on home made looms.
There is a lot you can do without those things the system has to
offer.
They have encouraged us to think we need their stuff when we can
learn a
more independent lifestyle. Your life style would have to change
but I
assure you it is going to change anyway.
Big Al is right "it is not as simple as you say". Of course I
didn't say
it was simple.
We have all heard that 'Freedom is not free'. Well it is not easy either.
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. (Rev.
13:15)
The word 'kill' in this quote is not the normal word for kill in the Greek. It is apokteino from apo ( of separation .. of origin) and kteino (to slay); together they mean 'to kill in any way whatever, to allow to perish... to deprive ..'
Those who do not take the mark of the beast will be left out of the pipe
line of the System of Things but the good part is when the whole system
fails you will hardly notice.
Gregory at the ekklesia
The life style of the ekklesia
Virginia Raines wrote:
>
> Gregory --
>
> I am always interested in what you have to say. Let me ask you a question,
> please. How do you think such a lifestyle works in
conjunction with a lot of
> other "christian" teaching, such as having a lot of children?
You know the
> scriptures and teachings, so I won't try to delineate
here.
I am not sure that having lots of children is required as a
matter of
'Christian teachings'. It certainly wasn't in Paul's case. Being
'fruitful and multiply' does not simply mean have lots of kids.
It at
leasts includes an idea of quality and stature as well as, if I
may
borrow a term, recruit.
> It seems to me that in order to sustain the kind of independence you are
> describing, there is a delicate balance regarding population numbers and usable
> land, for instance.
Actually usable land that is not being used is abundant but people who know how to use it are few. If people worked out on the land this country could produce a 100 fold of what it produces now. More than 75% of the people who live in this county receive a government check every month.
Living on the land can teach you more about law and God's ways than
most people realize. If you want to subjugate a people to your will the
first thing you do is get them off the land.
And as for the people, he removed them to cities from [one]
end of
the borders of Egypt even to the [other] end thereof. Genesis
47:21
Make them dependent on your economic system and you've got them.
A good example is Brazil. It use to export food with a large
agricultural base. Land use and tax laws were changed. The
small farms
for a number of reasons needed more cash or thought they did and
began
to produce larger cash crops. When there was a poor year they
ended up
at the bankers doors and the small farms were squeezed and
bought out by
conglomerates who began farming these small fertile plots in
massive
single crop factory farms. Interest rates increased and money
lost its
value. The farmers went to the city to find jobs and found
themselves in
poverty and squalor.
All this could have been avoided had the people been alert to the natural law but they were seduced and deceived. After a number of years the government opened the rain forest to those who wanted to farm again and desperate men went out into the jungles to the poor farm land and died by the thousands on land unsuited for the type of farming they new.
When it was all said and done they ended up working for the same manipulative big money people for starvation wages in mines and factories.
Back on the original land that was so fertile production has
dropped,
chemical fertilizers have been brought in. The nutrient quality
of the
food has decreased and it spoils quicker also the need for
pesticides
has grown.
Pesticides are addictive. Once you use them you will need them
again
because you have killed or driven away the natural predators and
upset
the balance.
Balance and stability is what the law is all about.
>
> I do think that the emphasis on technology is gonna finally
wind up to the point
> that there is some massive harm. It's hard to explain to most
people because
> there are so many threads intertwined, but for example, the
fertilizers and
> pesticides and moder farming are killing the soil and causing
a lot of topsoil
> loss. Add to that the GM food. So, in the short term, there
is an illusion that
> we can keep feeding untold numbers of people (and in fact,
there is enough food
> to probably keep the whole world fed right now -- it's
politics, money, and
> hatred that mainly is causing starvation) but ultimately,
there is going to be a
> collapse of that system from what I can tell. Unlike LaRouche
and others who
> appear to believe that man's ingenuity can meet all problems
and infinite growth,
> I believe that much of the "advances" are really undermining
true health, and
> this in turn calls for more and more technology and "medical
treatment", etc.
>
I am not against technology. I am writing you on a computer but
I can
also write you on paper and I can make the paper. Most people
cannot
produce a shirt without a million dollar factory or a loaf of
bread from
a seed. These skills could be essential to those people who wish
to
unplug from a technology whose reigns/reins are held by tyrants.
Man's ingenuity can meet all problems but arrogant ingenuity
without
regard to the immutable laws of God's reality can and does cause
all
problems.
Look! Everyone in the United States with a Social Security
number is a
slave. Yes SLAVE. Slaves to international bankers and Bill.
Slaves to
what they think they need. Slaves to what they have learned to
need.
They are nothing more than human resources to be used up and
ground down
and harvested. In Egypt the people paid 1/5 of their labor to
Pharaoh
and they called it slavery. In the United States the average
taxpayer
'pays' more and he calls it freedom. He is a liar. He lies to
himself
and to his children who he delivers into bondage. That is not
being
fruitful.
In Egypt they were made slaves because of a famine and the fact
that
they delivered their brother into bondage. US citizens have
become
slaves because they want stuff and they are lazy, apathetic and
covetous
of their neighbors sweat..
2 Peter 2:3 . And through covetousness shall they with feigned
words
make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time
lingereth
not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
Anyone who sends their children to public school requires their
neighbor
to pay for their children's education at the point of a gun[ I
use the
word education here in its malevolent sense]. If they don't want
to pay
you have the sheriff come and take THEIR house at gun point and
then
through him in the streets. Then for good measure you take his
children
and put them in another home where the people are more
politically
correct.
Abraham left the city of Ur and the city his own father started
and
named after his son that was put to death by the codified laws
of Ur.
Abraham had few children but he had many servants. Slaves if you
want to
put it clear. When he needed a wife for his son he sent his
servant to
pick one out. That was a powerful position for a servant.
Domestic
Servants in ancient law were a part of the family.
Better to be a slave to Abraham than a freeman in Egypt.
>
> Virginia
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of
her, my
people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye
receive not of
her plagues. Revelation 18:4
If you come out they will exclude you from the needs of life. If
you
don't know how to live without them I would suggest you learn,
find
someone who does or stay where you are.
Art thou called [being] a servant? care not for it: but if
thou mayest
be made free, use [it] rather. 1 Corinthians 7:21
What was God's first commandment?
And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of
Eden to
dress it and to keep it. Genesis 2:15
Most men don't know how to dress it and they have all but lost
it to
tyrants and adversaries.
Gregory at the ekklesia@presys.com
The ekklesia writings
THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT A LAWFUL DOCUMENT
until you sign it.
The King's Court wrote:
>
> ----------
> From: Winston Smith
> To: The King's Court
....
> There were people who hated the U.S. Constitution as it was
being written
> and there has always been such people since it was ratified
over 200 years
> ago.
Yes, there were people that hated the constitution.
"Just as the revolutionary Adams opposed the
Constitution in
Massachusetts, so did Patrick Henry in Virginia, and the contest
in that
most important State of all was prolonged and bitter. He who in
Stamp
Act days had proclaimed that there should be no Virginians or New
Yorkers, but only Americans, now declaimed as violently against
the
preamble of the Constitution because it began, `We the people of
the
United States' instead of `We, the State.' Like many, he feared a
`consolidated' government, and the loss of states rights. Not
only Henry
but much abler men, such as Mason, Benjamin Harrison, Munroe,
R.H. Lee
were also opposed and debated...others in what was the most acute
discussion carried on anywhere..."
"Owing to the way in which the conventions were held,
the great
opposition manifested everywhere, and the management required to
secure
the barest majorities for ratification, it seems impossible to
avoid the
conclusion that the greater part of the people were opposed to
the
Constitution."
"It was not submitted to the people directly, and in
those days of
generally limited suffrage, even those who voted for delegates
to the
State conventions were mostly of a propertied class, although
the amount
of property called for may have been slight." History of the
U.S. by James Truslow Adams V.1. pp. 258-259.
So much for democracy...
But, was the Constitution of the United States ever
ratified and what
is its true source of authority? There has been serious
questions raised
and continuous arguments made about the lawful passing of certain
amendments. The fact is the Constitution of the United States
was never
ratified according to the law at the time.
"If a constitution expressly provides that it may be
amended only in a
certain way and another way followed, such and attempted
amendment is
illegal; but if it is acquiesced in it becomes effective as a
peaceful
revolution such as took place when the United States
Constitution took
effect upon the ratification by nine states in spite of the fact
that
the old Articles of Confederation provided that they should not
be
amended without unanimous consent of the states." Clark's Sum.
of American Law, Constitutional Law Chapt 1, .1 p. 462
Ignorance and vanity tempered with apathy and avarice
are the greatest
allies to tyranny. So what is the authority that makes the
Constitution
of the United States and its Amendments the law of the land and
the
authority in our lives?
The Constitution itself was never a Christian document.
Quite the contrary. I wish they would stick to it but I would
not sign
it.
> Congress was granted the
> power to provide penalties for counterfeiting.
Actually they were not granted power if it was not ratified.
What they
did was seize power. It is our apathy that grants them power.
The constitution was a declaration of a corporate body that they
were
going to start operating. If we did not participate so
covetously in
their monopoly games and practices we would have little to no
problem
with the tiny little corporate body over their in the
district.
> Naturally, counterfeiters don't want either
> interference or penalties. Nevertheless, in the Mint Act of
April 2,
> 1792, Congress provided a penalty of death for officers of the
mint who
> might participate in debasing our gold and silver coinage.
This harsh
> penalty was deemed necessary because those wise men knew that
unrestrained
> counterfeiters could overthrow the republic.
I know what you are trying to say here but to make things
clearer I
would have to say the way to counterfeit gold and silver coins
was to
put a baser metal in the coin without the knowledge of the user.
And
then say it was pure. They make clad coin but you can tell which
ones
are pure and which ones are not. All you have to do is look.
That is not
fraud on their part but stupidity on ours.
>
> In spite of the death penalty, a congressional quorum of three
on Dec. 23,
> 1913, with passage of the Federal Reserve Act, provided
presses, paper, ink
> and labor for count-erfeiters!
A Federal Reserve note is not counterfeit. It said right on it
for years
that it was redeemable in lawful money. If you can redeem it for
lawful
money it is not lawful money. Strictly speaking it is not even
money.
So, anyone using it knew they were not paying for anything with
lawful
money.
Oh! The blindness of greed.
> This act filled the fifth plank of Karl
> Marx's Communist Manifesto. Also in 1913, the 16th amendment
(Marx's
> second plank, a progressive income tax) was fraudulently
imposed for the
> purpose of regulating the use of counterfeit by the victims of
it.
Actually the 16th Amendment did not impose an income tax on
wages and
salaries. No one but fiduciaries paid taxes on their earnings
from their
labor until the Social Security Act in 1933. A social Security
Number
and participation in that corvee system is voluntary.
...
>
> God promised long life if we refrained from using unjust
weights. All
> divinity schools churn out ministers who seek unjust weights
as 'dollars',
> 'pounds', 'pesos' etc. These
> ministers will scorn people who refuse to submit to the
regulation
> necessary to conceal the fraud.
Yes those are the ministers or prophets of the beast. I don't
call it
fraud though because all the workings of these institutions are
published and written down. America has been foolish enough to
buy a pig
in a poke. That is not fraud it is stupidity.
What people have to start doing is living the right way.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith
the Lord,
and touch not the unclean (thing); and I will receive you. And I
will be
a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith
the Lord
Almighty. (II Corinthian 6:17-18
Don't just complain about the wickedness of others. Let go of the
comforts of a wicked system and become independent of their
ways. Learn
to live in Rome without living of Rome. There are many doing it
already.
But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to
myself
seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to [the image
of] Baal.
(Ro 11:4)
Gregory at the ekklesia@presys.com
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